spreading the wealth around, that he believed in a more corporatist system of economy meaning that big government, big corporations and big unions would decide who's going to win and who's not going to win, and that he would take a less aggressive role abroad in what we now call lead from behind. a lot of these historians wondered how he was going to accomplish so much when he had two wars going on at that time in iraq and afghanistan, and even lyndon johnson couldn't get a lot of his domestic stuff passed when he had two wars going. but obama said, well, i can do it because -- he didn't say these words, because i'm special. and it was a real insight into his character which has a great deal of i would call over self-confidence, human hubris, t pride if himself, and a view of he doesn't really understand how the world works which makes him an amateur. >> host: you report on the conversation that held place in that historians' meeting, and you say that he had proposed a new term for his term in office, and that was a new foundation -- >> guest: yes. >> host: and what was -- >> guest: and doors kea